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 [11:59:39] <klejao>  hi karen daryn mike and jeff
 [11:59:51] <mikeing2001>  hi]
 [11:59:53] <darynl>  hello
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 [12:01:44] <mikeing2001>  kristian? are you using an irc desktop Client or the web verison
 [12:01:56] <klejao>  desktop
 [12:02:07] <mikeing2001>  what is it called?
 [12:02:10] <darynl>  are you?
 [12:02:12] <darynl>  web?
 [12:02:17] <darynl>  icechat
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 [12:02:40] <mikeing2001>  i was using desktop version last week but it's not working this week so i am using web
 [12:02:49] <darynl>  icic
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 [12:05:02] <karenreid>  hi guys. Sorry I'm late
 [12:05:11] <darynl>  hello
 [12:05:22] <karenreid>  I thought I had sent email, but just got back to my desk to see it still sitting there :-(
 [12:05:44] <jeffles>  brb
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 [12:06:21] <karenreid>  how did the saturday working go?
 [12:06:49] <mikeing2001>  Sunday working went OK
 [12:07:04] <karenreid>  opp:-)
 [12:07:10] <klejao>  we're planning to do it every week
 [12:07:17] <darynl>  it was a good way to put our minds together on one problem
 [12:07:34] <jeffles>  back
 [12:07:34] <karenreid>  :-) Nice to see the issues falling.
 [12:08:29] <karenreid>  Let's do a quick round. If you want to add anything to your status report...
 [12:08:48] <karenreid>  darynl: you get to be first today.
 [12:09:00] <klejao>  just a quick question for me
 [12:09:03] <klejao>  oops
 [12:09:24] <darynl>  Something I didn't mention was that I noticed there are a lot of errors when I was going through the system
 [12:10:05] <karenreid>  what kind of errors
 [12:10:06] <karenreid>  ?
 [12:10:12] <darynl>  for issue 730, dealing with the release of marks
 [12:10:21] <darynl>  when i try to release marks, i get 404 error
 [12:10:40] <darynl>  it could be because I'm missing a step before releaseing marks
 [12:10:54] <darynl>  or it could just be an error
 [12:11:06] <karenreid>  It still shouldn't be a 404. :-(
 [12:11:17] <darynl>  which leads me to say, I'm still learning the system
 [12:11:26] <darynl>  some things I don't know what they do
 [12:11:51] <darynl>  but I am learning
 [12:11:57] <jeffles>  i noticed that too, the javascript console has a lot of 404 not founds in several spots. should make a ticket for all of them& or try upgrading to prototype 1.7 because apparently it fixes a lot of problems
 [12:12:08] <darynl>  also
 [12:12:20] <darynl>  a lot of the issues on github seem to be fixed already
 [12:12:24] <darynl>  and aren't closed :/
 [12:12:43] <darynl>  perhaps someone can clean that up
 [12:13:15] <karenreid>  It would be good to file tickets and/or to spend some time checking to see whether it is a problem with the particular installation.
 [12:13:56] <darynl>  particular installation as in local set up?
 [12:14:03] <karenreid>  I'm hoping to be able to spend more time on MarkUs next week and can look into this, but
 [12:14:30] <karenreid>  you guys are the "someone" right now. Could you make a list as you come across them?
 [12:14:51] <darynl>  ok
 [12:14:53] <karenreid>  I'm not sure the best place for the list. Does it make sense to put it in ticket?
 [12:15:08] <darynl>  seems the best way right now
 [12:15:12] <klejao>  we can add a wiki page to list all tickets that have been fixed but not yet closed
 [12:15:21] <darynl>  that sounds good too
 [12:17:01] <karenreid>  When you are checking to see if something is fixed but not close, please check review board to see if there is something there. If there is evidence that a fix made it in, then I can easily close the ticket without looking at it further, but if there isn't then we need to investigate more.
 [12:18:43] <karenreid>  I don't want you (or the next group) chasing things that are fixed, so please leave a trail in the issues themselves so that we don't have to repeat this again.
 [12:19:16] <karenreid>  jeffles: Is the upgrade to prototype 1.7 a local thing for you or something that everyone has or should do?
 [12:19:21] <karenreid>  and is it in the documenation?
 [12:20:43] <jeffles>  I'm not sure, I know Tobi was looking at it.
 [12:20:54] <karenreid>  thanks
 [12:22:07] <jeffles>  I was going to try upgrading and see if the errors are still around this week.
 [12:22:38] <karenreid>  Make sure you keep notes, so that you know whether things were actually fixed or not.
 [12:22:42] <jeffles>  The stuff I read online says it's to do with replacing the rails.js file with a newer one, but it seems like there should be other stuff involved as ewll
 [12:22:47] <jeffles>  yes i'll make a new branch or something
 [12:25:38] <karenreid>  Is the sandbox up to date with respect to the versions you guys are working on?
 [12:26:00] <karenreid>  (I'm just wondering how useful it is to test things on the sandbox.)
 [12:26:37] <mikeing2001>  i think the sandbox uses an older verison of rails
 [12:26:40] <jeffles>  i'm not sure where to check versions but isn't the sandbox on rails 2?
 [12:27:06] <klejao>  that's what I thought too
 [12:27:06] <darynl>  speaking of sandbox, it has been really slow lately
 [12:27:34] <karenreid>  noticing that right now
 [12:29:47] <karenreid>  hmm. I don't know how to tell exactly, but I see features on sandbox.markusproject.org that I don't see in our production version which makes me think it must be rails 3 (not 100% sure)
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 [12:30:47] <karenreid>  Something else to look into
 [12:31:35] <karenreid>  darynl: any other concerns or questions about what you are working on or planning to work on?
 [12:33:00] <darynl>  that's about it for now :D
 [12:33:15] <karenreid>  klejao: how about you
 [12:33:16] <karenreid>  ?
 [12:33:46] <klejao>  I was just going to ask if there's a better way to check if an issue has been fixed but daryn asked it already
 [12:34:30] <karenreid>  I agree it is a big problem. I should be able to do some work on that, but it would be really helpful if you can document these things as you come upon them.
 [12:34:49] <karenreid>  mikeing2001: I'm curious about your temporary fix for #656
 [12:35:16] <mikeing2001>  what it is, is that how i check the revision timestamp
 [12:35:18] <karenreid>  I'm also not sure what you mean by the web interface for subversion backnd
 [12:36:33] <mikeing2001>  to answer to second question first, i tried to reproduce the issue with the web submitting. It looked like i couldn't (i guess i did something wrong the first time) so i thought that i had to use command line svn
 [12:36:44] <karenreid>  ahh
 [12:37:42] <mikeing2001>  So for the fix i have right now, i check the assignment folder svn revision history instead of the entire depot
 [12:37:53] <karenreid>  :-)
 [12:38:14] <mikeing2001>  i think there may be some info that is display incorrectly still
 [12:38:43] <mikeing2001>  but the solution looks promising
 [12:39:11] <karenreid>  That sounds like the right solution because it fits my intuition of what was going on.
 [12:39:33] <karenreid>  Does the revision date ever get stored in the db, or is it looked up every time you need it?
 [12:40:03] <mikeing2001>  it is stored in the db
 [12:40:35] <karenreid>  on assignment "collection" I'm guessing
 [12:40:42] <mikeing2001>  yes
 [12:41:13]  *** karenreid is trying to guess about the info that is still not displayed correctly
 [12:41:37] <karenreid>  Great to see progress being made on this one.
 [12:42:18] <karenreid>  mikeing2001: any other questions/concerns?
 [12:42:34] <mikeing2001>  no, nothing that daryn has not said yet
 [12:42:36] <karenreid>  :-)
 [12:43:01] <karenreid>  jeffles: your status report didn't make it into the blog (although I'm reloading now)
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 [12:43:12] <karenreid>  how was your week?
 [12:43:23] <jeffles>  slow& i got sick unfortunately
 [12:43:27] <jeffles>  been sleeping quite a lot
 [12:43:32] <karenreid>  sorry to hear that
 [12:43:50] <jeffles>  i finished that one issue and I was starting to look at all those javascript errors we talked about
 [12:44:01] <karenreid>  sounds good
 [12:44:02] <jeffles>  but didn't get down to actually making a ticket unfortunately
 [12:45:01] <karenreid>  I hope you are feeling better soon.
 [12:45:09] <jeffles>  thanks. i'll work hard to catch up
 [12:45:26] <karenreid>  It would be great to find out if the prototype version fixes a bunch of problem.
 [12:45:27] <karenreid>  s
 [12:45:29] <darynl>  (y)
 [12:46:02] <karenreid>  Sounds good everyone. I hope I'll be able to add my own status reports next week ;-)
 [12:47:09] <karenreid>  on the UCOSP front (in case you need any extra motivation), we learned that not only did we get money from Google, but we also received a significant grant from Facebook, and the January sprint will be at Facebook in Mountainview :-D
 [12:47:31] <karenreid>  I guess facebook uses lots of open source tools in their dev process. Hence their interest.
 [12:47:47] <ddadacha>  woah
 [12:47:47] <darynl>  sounds awesome!
 [12:47:52] <jeffles>  nobody ask them about their IPO
 [12:47:59] <karenreid>  There will also be students from Stanford participating.
 [12:48:00] <darynl>  lol
 [12:48:02] <karenreid>  jeffles: ;-)
 [12:48:33] <karenreid>  I'm far from an facebook fan, but I'm grateful for the opportunity.
 [12:49:05] <ddadacha>  karenreid: aren't visas going to be a problem though?
 [12:49:26] <ddadacha>  karenreid: for non-citizens that is
 [12:49:34] <karenreid>  ddadacha: yes. That is a concern, and we will be careful to inform students ahead of time.
 [12:49:58] <mikeing2001>  ddadcha: you mean non-citizens of Canada
 [12:50:03] <ddadacha>  heh ahead of time for some needs to be ~3 months
 [12:50:11] <ddadacha>  mikeing2001: yeah
 [12:50:18] <ddadacha>  mikeing2001: also, tab completion on IRC ;)
 [12:50:29] <karenreid>  ddadacha: I thought there were faster ways for a 3 day trip.
 [12:50:54] <karenreid>  I know it depends on country of citizenship.
 [12:51:06] <mikeing2001>  karenreid: nothing is fast for us visas
 [12:51:08] <darynl>  sweet, didn't know about tab completion
 [12:51:09] <ddadacha>  karenreid: I don't know but I remember having to wait 3 months for a 2 week one when I went through my family (and did not yet have citizenship here)
 [12:51:30] <ddadacha>  through with my*
 [12:51:48] <karenreid>  We'll look into it more. It would be real shame if we had to limit participants too much. :-(
 [12:53:14] <karenreid>  ddadacha: btw, do you know anything about looking into performance problems on markusproject.org?
 [12:53:51] <ddadacha>  karenreid: WRT the http server or WRT sandbox/demo?
 [12:54:07] <karenreid>  the sandbox/demo it is *really* slow right now
 [12:54:12] <jeffles>  they are both kinda slow
 [12:54:12] <jeffles>  '
 [12:54:56] <ddadacha>  I can take a look over the weekend but nothing more than basic CPU/RAM cleanup and renice-ing some of the more important procs
 [12:55:16]  *** ddadacha has an exam tomorrow though so won't happen til after then
 [12:55:50] <karenreid>  ddadacha: thanks
 [12:56:02] <karenreid>  Okay, meeting adjourned. Thanks everyone.
 [12:56:06] <ddadacha>  np!
 [12:56:24] <karenreid>  ddadacha: happy studying
 [12:56:32] <jeffles>  gl on exam
 [12:56:34] <jeffles>  bye
 [12:56:38] <ddadacha>  ty!
 [12:56:39] <darynl>  ddadacha: gl
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 [12:56:44] <darynl>  bye!
 [12:56:44] <ddadacha>  certifications are always "fun"
 [12:56:51] <mikeing2001>  bye
 [12:56:54] <darynl>  i got one at end of june
 [12:56:57] <klejao>  bye
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 [12:57:10] <darynl>  bye again
 [12:57:15] <ddadacha>  bye
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 [12:57:20] <karenreid>  sigh. Off to my next meeting...
 [12:57:29] <ddadacha>  =)
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