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 [11:55:57] <darynl>  Hi Karen
 [11:56:09] <karenreid>  Hi darynl
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 [11:56:35] <darynl>  should we just do this meeting over IRC today?
 [11:56:47] <klejao>  hi
 [11:56:52] <darynl>  hi Kristian
 [11:56:58] <karenreid>  Hi
 [11:57:07] <karenreid>  I'd be happy to use irc
 [11:57:30] <karenreid>  we just need to get Jeff and Michael on.
 [11:57:50] <darynl>  I have contacted them on fb
 [11:57:52] <darynl>  haha
 [11:58:07] <ddadacha>  darynl, klejao: how's the development install coming along?
 [11:58:21] <karenreid>  Hi ddadacha
 [11:58:36] <karenreid>  ddadacha: do you know how to get new users on rb and the blog?
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 [11:59:45] <karenreid>  Also, darynl, klejao, and michael_ can you please send your github ids
 [11:59:48] <darynl>  I got stuck at the part where I needed Xcode, but I have that installed now so everything should be fine
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 [12:00:05] <darynl>  I think the confusing part was just the MySQL setup
 [12:00:11] <darynl>  but Jeff helped me with that
 [12:00:30] <klejao>  mine is lejaokri
 [12:00:37] <darynl>  mine is fudge21
 [12:00:48] <ddadacha>  karenreid: yeah we add them manually, I can do it tonight (unless you need it earlier)
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 [12:00:57] <klejao>  im not done setting up MySQL, i need to ask daryn and/or jeff for help
 [12:01:10] <ddadacha>  klejao: you can also ask on here ;)
 [12:01:18] <klejao>  thanks
 [12:01:39] <karenreid>  ddadacha: if you could do it and write up very brief instructions so I can do it next time, that would be great
 [12:01:49] <ddadacha>  karenreid: sure
 [12:02:47] <ddadacha>  klejao: most people accidentally skip https://github.com/MarkUsProject/Markus/wiki/SettingUpMySQL so if you're having trouble beyond that, LMK
 [12:05:34] <darynl>  I just called Jeff, he is running a little late but he will be on asap
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 [12:07:27] <darynl>  hey Jeff
 [12:07:31] <jeffles>  hey
 [12:07:39] <karenreid>  grr. the github ui doesn't want to let me add users :(
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 [12:08:27] <NelleV>  karenreid: I can do it if you want
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 [12:08:44] <karenreid>  NelleV: thanks
 [12:09:09]  *** NelleV is just working on an article on markus in french with Benjamin_V and Morgan :)
 [12:09:17] <karenreid>  I'm really trying to figure out how to do these things myself again, but it's not working :(
 [12:09:57] <karenreid>  We better get the meeting underway
 [12:10:22] <karenreid>  Let's find out where everyone is at. It has been too quiet on the regular channels.
 [12:10:37] <karenreid>  darynl: do you want to start and bring us up to date on what you worked on this week?
 [12:10:46] <darynl>  ok
 [12:11:15] <darynl>  So I've pretty much just set up my RoR application on my mac
 [12:11:29] <darynl>  and I've looked over the application, played around with the sandbox
 [12:12:01] <darynl>  thats all
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 [12:13:24] <darynl>  anyone want to go next?
 [12:13:26] <karenreid>  darynl: (and ddadacha) do you really need XCode? Or is that just to get some other dev tools
 [12:14:02] <darynl>  in the instructions, it says I need Xcode for ruby-headers
 [12:14:05] <jeffles>  yeah you need to install Xcode for some libraries to work?
 [12:14:06] <NelleV>  You need xcode to install a bunch of dependencies, if I recall correctly
 [12:14:12] <darynl>  and I couldn't install some gems without it
 [12:14:15] <karenreid>  right
 [12:14:40] <karenreid>  darynl: so you are still in progress on getting the dev environment for MarkUs set up
 [12:14:41] <karenreid>  ?
 [12:15:22] <darynl>  correct, but I think i'll get that set up finished quickly now that I have Xcode
 [12:15:23] <ddadacha>  karenreid: sorry not sure what you're referring to exactly (XCode)
 [12:15:39] <karenreid>  ddadacha: no problem
 [12:15:59] <ddadacha>  karenreid: mac specific perhaps? My mac knowledge is oh about 0 ;)
 [12:16:08] <karenreid>  darynl: okay, sounds good. Let me know if you are ready to start working on a ticket
 [12:16:12] <darynl>  ok
 [12:16:40] <karenreid>  ddadacha: I just expect you young people to remember everything better than me ;-)
 [12:16:52] <darynl>  question (for all of us new), do we just come on to IRC whenever we are ready to be assigned tickets?
 [12:17:22] <ddadacha>  darynl: no you come on IRC for help/to help others/whenever you feel like it =) If you want a ticket, go to the issues page on github
 [12:17:23] <darynl>  theres no specific process to being assign tickets?
 [12:17:30] <ddadacha>  https://github.com/MarkUsProject/Markus/issues/
 [12:17:30] <karenreid>  IRC is always a good place to check. I'll try to keep mine on regularly, but I sometimes forget. email to markusdev or to me is a good idea too.
 [12:17:32] <darynl>  okok
 [12:17:48] <ddadacha>  if you find one you like, just comment on it saying you want to pick it up
 [12:17:55] <darynl>  ok
 [12:18:16] <ddadacha>  and one of us will assign you to it. Git doesn't allow for us to give ticket assigning permissions without giving you push access to master :/
 [12:18:38] <darynl>  ic
 [12:18:40] <ddadacha>  err github, not git
 [12:18:45] <darynl>  yeah haha
 [12:19:17] <jeffles>  what does the xxxxxx label denote?
 [12:19:37] <jeffles>  number of x's == importance?
 [12:19:41] <karenreid>  I'm also wondering how you got the code to get things set up. Can you clone the repo without being a member on github?
 [12:19:49] <karenreid>  jeffles: yes
 [12:20:01] <jeffles>  yes we can
 [12:20:08] <jeffles>  wait member of the group at least
 [12:21:11] <karenreid>  Okay. I'll let ddadacha or NelleV jump in if there are particular git details that you need to be careful of.
 [12:21:31] <karenreid>  jeffles: it is your turn to talk about what you worked on this week.
 [12:21:49] <ddadacha>  jeffles: https://github.com/MarkUsProject/Markus/wiki/Labelswhattheymean
 [12:21:57] <jeffles>  I got the dev environment set up and I went through a ruby tutorial and a RoR specific tutorial
 [12:22:34] <jeffles>  I could start working on a ticket but I'll be slow while I figure out where things are etc
 [12:22:38] <ddadacha>  karenreid: yeah you can since it's open source ;) git://github.com/MarkUsProject/Markus.git is the git read-only URL so you can fork it or clone it
 [12:22:55] <jeffles>  ddadacha: thanks
 [12:23:22] <karenreid>  jeffles: sounds good
 [12:23:48] <karenreid>  I'll look for a few tickets when we are done as good starting points (or ddadacha may have some in mind too)
 [12:24:30] <ddadacha>  generally, ones labelled with easy_fix are good to start with but they really shouldn't take long
 [12:24:37] <karenreid>  A major part of completing the first ticket should be just figuring out the process of making a change, and submitting it for review.
 [12:24:44] <ddadacha>  they're best for getting the hang of code review IMO and the entire commit process we use
 [12:24:57] <karenreid>  exactly
 [12:25:21] <jeffles>  should i find one that's unassigned?
 [12:26:01] <ddadacha>  jeffles: if it is assigned, just leave a comment saying something like are you still working on this and if not can I take it
 [12:26:09] <karenreid>  jeffles: yes. I think we were fairly good at closing completed tickets last term
 [12:26:45] <karenreid>  klejao: your turn
 [12:26:47] <ddadacha>  yep, chances are if it's assigned and open, it's still incomplete
 [12:27:36] <klejao>  ive been reading RoR tutorials online. im not done setting up the dev environment but i should be able to finish that by Monday
 [12:27:59] <klejao>  and getting familiar with Github as well
 [12:28:35] <karenreid>  It's a pretty big learning curve!
 [12:28:50] <karenreid>  Do you have a favourite RoR tutorial or two?
 [12:29:31] <klejao>  IBM has its own library,so i just go there and read some rails textbooks
 [12:30:08] <darynl>  their resources are really good, that's where i learned from ;-)
 [12:30:36] <karenreid>  cool
 [12:31:12] <karenreid>  Do you have a favourite book? (People ask me these kinds of things)
 [12:31:39] <mikeing2001>  I have been reading Learn rails by example by Michael Hartl. I like it, but that is the only book i have read
 [12:31:51] <darynl>  let me check what it was
 [12:31:55] <karenreid>  mikeing2001: and jeffles please tell me your github id so I can add you to git hub (I figured out it was a safari problem :-( )
 [12:32:08] <jeffles>  karenreid: ummu
 [12:32:10] <karenreid>  mikeing2001: thanks
 [12:32:20] <mikeing2001>  karenreid: I emailed it to you
 [12:32:47] <mikeing2001>  karenreid: for quick reference: mikeing2001
 [12:32:50] <karenreid>  great. Everyone is added
 [12:32:59] <ddadacha>  http://ruby.railstutorial.org/ruby-on-rails-tutorial-book (which is what mikeing2001 is reading but in book form I assume?)
 [12:33:20] <mikeing2001>  yes in pdf form
 [12:33:53] <karenreid>  Great.
 [12:34:04] <karenreid>  mikeing2001: I think your status report is the only one remaining
 [12:34:07] <mikeing2001>  What I try doing is getting RoR working on Windows. However, i had no luck. As a result, I install it on a virutal box using linux. I have things up and running on linux. I have been play around with it on my own machine. Also, yesterday i briefly looked at the code just to get a feel of it.
 [12:34:33] <darynl>  I believe the book i used is simply rails 2
 [12:35:26] <karenreid>  mikeing2001: that's great! Thanks for trying it out on Windows. I hope working in virtual box is okay.
 [12:35:51] <karenreid>  I'm impressed that nearly everyone has MarkUs mostly installed. :-)
 [12:35:51] <jeffles>  what was wrong with installing it in windows?
 [12:35:55] <mikeing2001>  karenreid: virtual box is great. So much easier than windows
 [12:36:01] <darynl>  having it setup on windows is definitely a pain
 [12:36:11] <karenreid>  Now the fun begins
 [12:36:14] <mikeing2001>  jeffles: It just wouldn't build
 [12:36:35] <jeffles>  i see i see
 [12:37:20] <karenreid>  The next step is to get started working on tickets.
 [12:37:59] <darynl>  :-d
 [12:38:14] <karenreid>  I'd like you to use the irc channel and the markus-dev mailing list for discussions about the project, so that others can help and participate.
 [12:39:01] <karenreid>  I'll look at the tickets this evening and tomorrow morning and send a list of likely candidates. But don't let that stop you from looking yourself.
 [12:39:09] <karenreid>  I also need to add a bunch of tickets too.
 [12:39:48] <karenreid>  any questions?
 [12:40:21] <karenreid>  comments or concerns?
 [12:40:27] <mikeing2001>  yes
 [12:40:39] <mikeing2001>  karenreid: Just to clarify, no more video chatting right
 [12:40:53] <mikeing2001>  then i don't need to bring my laptop to work
 [12:40:58] <karenreid>  What do you guys think? I kind of like the irc better myself
 [12:41:08] <jeffles>  irc is fine
 [12:41:09] <darynl>  I agree
 [12:41:20] <karenreid>  sold
 [12:41:24] <darynl>  easier to keep a record of what we talk about
 [12:41:25] <jeffles>  anybody know of any good irc client for android?
 [12:41:26] <karenreid>  IRC it is.
 [12:41:33] <karenreid>  darynl: I agree!
 [12:41:50] <karenreid>  easier to get clarifications too
 [12:42:46] <karenreid>  You should be getting email shortly about being signed up for the course.
 [12:43:03] <jeffles>  cool
 [12:43:09] <darynl>  great, I was actually going to ask about when we would be officially enrolled
 [12:43:27] <karenreid>  That's all I have today, so the meeting is officially over. :-)
 [12:43:33] <darynl>  ok thanks!
 [12:43:36] <jeffles>  also i hear there was a trip for UCOSP students. do we get to participate in like that?
 [12:43:37] <klejao>  thanks
 [12:43:46] <karenreid>  jeffles: not this summer.
 [12:44:06] <karenreid>  We did get Google funding for the fall and winter UCOSP, so we will be running it again next year.
 [12:44:18] <karenreid>  We are planning to have the fall sprint at Waterloo.
 [12:44:44] <darynl>  sounds good!
 [12:45:10] <karenreid>  We are talking with a prof from Stanford about having his students join us, and we might end up having a sprint at a company in California that is also interested, but that is all very tentative.
 [12:45:32] <mikeing2001>  i like the sound of that
 [12:46:15] <jeffles>  wait we get to participate in those right?
 [12:46:41] <karenreid>  Only if you are registered in a 495 that term under the UCOSP program.
 [12:47:06] <karenreid>  Or if you become so invaluable to MarkUs that you continue volunteering and I pay for your code sprint costs ;-)
 [12:47:32] <darynl>  very nice incentive to work hard this summer guys!
 [12:48:08] <karenreid>  ddadacha and tobi were partially covered that way, and I have brought Severin to a sprint for that reason too.
 [12:48:42] <karenreid>  I don't have much to offer our wonderful volunteers, but once in a while I can work something out.
 [12:49:42] <jeffles>  haha cool
 [12:52:28] <darynl>  ok, if there is nothing important left to say I will return to work now haha
 [12:52:34] <darynl>  talk to you all soon
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 [12:53:03] <klejao>  same here. bye everyone
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