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 [09:42:49]  #markus: mode change '+o MarkUsBot' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.
 [09:43:00]  #markus: mode change '+oooo NelleV m_conley_away jerboaa karenreid' by MarkUsBot!~MarkUsBot@li136-145.members.linode.com
 [09:44:35]  Nick change: m_conley_away -> m_conley
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 [09:53:05]  *** jerboaa giving up
 [09:53:41]  #markus: mode change '-o NelleV' by NelleV!~Nelle@unaffiliated/nellev
 [09:54:15] <jerboaa>  what's the magic, NelleV?
 [09:54:57] <NelleV>  jerboaa: I just did /deop NelleV
 [09:55:10] <NelleV>  jerboaa: but MarkUsBot ops me again after a while
 [09:56:00] <jerboaa>  NelleV, ok. Should I perhaps remove you from the MarkUsBot auto-op list alltogether?
 [09:56:57] <NelleV>  jerboaa: I would leave the op list in the hand of ChanServer instead of MarkUsBot, but that requires some configuration
 [09:57:38] <NelleV>  I don't know if it is worth the trouble
 [09:58:19] <jerboaa>  NelleV, which I don't know how to do. Also, I think m_conley is owner of this channel (and nobody else, I believe). m_conley would you know?
 [09:59:36] <jerboaa>  NelleV, probably not, my only concern is that we lose ownership of the channel at some point (and won't be able to set topic, etc.) just sayin' :)
 [10:00:10] <NelleV>  jerboaa: I know some freenode staff worst case scenario
 [10:00:36] <jerboaa>  NelleV, heh, who don't you know ;-)
 [10:01:33] <m_conley>  jerboaa / NelleV: just a sec
 [10:02:44] <jerboaa>  m_conley, no rush at all :)
 [10:08:03] <ddadacha>  configuring it's easy ;)
 [10:08:12]  *** ddadacha has the commands somewhere in scrollback on here
 [10:09:47] <m_conley>  NelleV/ jerboaa: It's been a few years. I remember MarkUsBot being a real pain to set up and administer. There's some arcade /msg stuff you do to get it to open a port that you can telnet into to issue commands
 [10:10:00] <m_conley>  NelleV / jerboaa: I think you can also /msg certain commands, but its limited
 [10:10:10] <m_conley>  it was kind of a pain
 [10:10:22] <m_conley>  EggDrop isn't what I'd call my favourite piece of IRC bot software.
 [10:10:32] <jerboaa>  m_conley, I vaguely remember :)
 [10:11:01] <ddadacha>  this should do the trick - /MSG CHANSERV flags #markus <nick> +vVoOrt
 [10:11:13] <jerboaa>  m_conley, MarkUsBot aside, would you have privs to give some other people of us ownership of this channel?
 [10:11:15] <ddadacha>  no "O" if you don't want auto
 [10:11:37] <m_conley>  jerboaa: I might, yeah
 [10:11:37] <ddadacha>  (or +* for ownership)
 [10:12:00] <m_conley>  jerboaa: ops or ownership?
 [10:12:34] <jerboaa>  m_conley, if you can perhaps give ownership to NelleV, Benjamin_V, me karenreid and ddadacha?
 [10:12:46] <m_conley>  jerboaa: I'll see what I can do
 [10:13:06] <jerboaa>  m_conley, ownership, so that we can configure ChanServ to our liking
 [10:13:19] <ddadacha>  just may want to confirm what everyone's nickserv nick is
 [10:13:28] <m_conley>  ddadacha: good point
 [10:13:29] <ddadacha>  <-- mine =)
 [10:13:33] <m_conley>  is everyone registered?
 [10:13:47] <NelleV>  I don't think you can add someone who isn't registered
 [10:13:54] <ddadacha>  unless they happen to have that nick
 [10:14:03] <NelleV>  jerboaa: knowing freenode staff is not very useful in fact :(
 [10:14:05]  *** jerboaa has no idea what that means, but I think I've got jerboaa registered
 [10:14:08] <NelleV>  unless some of you guys want cloaks
 [10:14:28] <ddadacha>  jerboaa: you do
 [10:14:32] <NelleV>  jerboaa: you are registered
 [10:15:06] <ddadacha>  as does karenreid..just based on their last login IPs
 [10:15:51] <ddadacha>  jerboaa: you'd have to identify with nickserv before dealing with chanserv
 [10:19:33] <jerboaa>  ddadacha, again, don't know what that means (if you are referring to /msg NickServ identify <password> I did that).
 [10:20:12] <jerboaa>  I don't know most of the bot business
 [10:20:30] <NelleV>  jerboaa: yes, that is it
 [10:20:39] <jerboaa>  NelleV, k
 [10:20:58] <NelleV>  jerboaa: after identifying, you can "chat" with ChanServ, to deal with irc chan configuration
 [10:21:01] <ddadacha>  jerboaa: then from there, if you want to use chanserv, /msg chanserv help
 [10:21:36] <jerboaa>  ddadacha, NelleV: ok, thanks
 [10:22:12] <ddadacha>  (assuming you have access ;) )
 [10:22:48] <jerboaa>  ddadacha, once you are an owner of this channel feel free to configure the chanserv business ;-) we'll keep MarkUsBot around just for the logs (with no op status, perhaps)
 [10:23:33] <ddadacha>  jerboaa: only ever really use chanserv to take back a channel when the other interns kickban me :P
 [10:25:05] <ddadacha>  but I suppose I'll setup some mode locks to make sure no unwanted op person shows up
 [10:27:31] <jerboaa>  sounds good
 [10:48:37] <m_conley>  ddadacha / jerboaa / NelleV: so, after some cursory Googling, I can't seem to find the Chanserv command to transfer or share ownership
 [10:48:49] <m_conley>  if anybody has any suggestions, I'm all ears
 [10:48:59] <ddadacha>  this should do the trick - /MSG CHANSERV flags #markus <nick> +*
 [10:49:09] <ddadacha>  it won't "transfer", it'll share
 [10:49:13] <m_conley>  ah
 [10:49:16] <m_conley>  alrighty
 [10:49:16] <ddadacha>  you'll still have founder access
 [10:49:43] <ddadacha>  m_conley: you can see what +* gives from /msg chanserv help flags
 [10:50:27] <ddadacha>  yeah I would avoid google for *serv on IRC, each network uses their own choice of implementation of them, have yet to find 2 that are the same =)
 [10:50:39] <ddadacha>  the best idea is /msg $NAMESERV help
 [10:50:59] <m_conley>  alright, done for karenreid, NelleV, Benjamin_V, jerboaa, ddadacha
 [10:51:05] <NelleV>  m_conley: cheers
 [10:51:10] <ddadacha>  m_conley: thanks
 [10:51:13]  #markus: mode change '+o NelleV' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.
 [10:51:14] <m_conley>  np
 [10:51:16] <ddadacha>  NelleV: you probably want to switch autoop off :P
 [10:51:19] <NelleV>  thanks
 [10:51:21] <ddadacha>  so -O
 [10:51:26] <NelleV>  ddadacha: i oped myself
 [10:51:31]  #markus: mode change '-o NelleV' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.
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 [10:51:48] <ddadacha>  NelleV: yeah but I mean in general, it'll do that when you join/identify I believe
 [10:52:01] <NelleV>  ddadacha: well, for now, MarkUsBot does it
 [10:52:03]  #markus: mode change '-o NelleV' by NelleV!~Nelle@unaffiliated/nellev
 [10:52:15] <ddadacha>  =)
 [10:52:33]  #markus: mode change '+o ddadacha' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.
 [10:52:40]  #markus: mode change '-o MarkUsBot' by ddadacha!ddadacha@fedora/ddadacha
 [10:52:51] <ddadacha>  NelleV: problem temporarily solved?
 [10:52:56] <NelleV>  ddadacha: indeed :p
 [10:53:00] <NelleV>  I thought about kicking him
 [10:53:08] <ddadacha>  haha
 [10:53:19] <ddadacha>  bet there is an autorejoin script ;)
 [11:19:06] <m_conley>  there most certainly is
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 [12:27:35]  -:#markus- [ChanServ:#markus] ddadacha enabled the VERBOSE flag
 [12:28:02] <ddadacha>  LMK if you don't want ---^ just mentions when the access lists are modified
 [12:28:08] <ddadacha>  e.g....
 [12:28:19]  -:#markus- [ChanServ:#markus] ddadacha set flags +vVoOtsriRfA on tobioboye.
 [12:28:45] <ddadacha>  tobioboye: once you've identified, /MSG ChanServ op #markus
 [12:33:38] <jerboaa>  :)
 [12:35:20] <ddadacha>  I set it to enforce +cnt-ikl (no colour, no outside messages, only ops can set topic, never set invite-only, never limit channel to key-phrase join, never set limit on num users)
 [12:35:55] <ddadacha>  the no colour is there right now so I just went with it, no opinions on it either way ;)
 [12:38:43] <jerboaa>  heh, I'm barely following you talk about IRC things :)
 [12:40:07] <ddadacha>  hehe okay, just an FYI in case you ever need to deal with it. They're just channel modes to have funky restrictions. E.g. +t means enforce topic cannot be changed unless you have op
 [12:40:27] <ddadacha>  and op in itself is a channel mode (+o <user>) ;)
 [12:51:21] <jerboaa>  cool
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